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  <h2><a  href="/no-mathml-in-webkit">No MathML in webkit</a></h2>
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    <a  href="/by/William+Morgan/">William Morgan</a>,
    <span title="11 months ago">March 19, 2009  1:07pm</span>
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    <div class="labels"><span class='label'><a  href="/label/mathml/">mathml</a></span> <span class='label'><a  href="/label/whisper/">whisper</a></span> </div>
  
  <p class='first'>So apparently <a href="http://webkit.org/projects/mathml/index.html">WebKit has no real MathML
support</a>. Empirically, it seems
like you get some stuff like greek symbols, but things like sums and whatnot
don&#8217;t appear. Oh well. Mac users, switch to Firefox, or ignore the math posts.</p>
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  <h2><a  href="/old-comments">Old comments are in</a></h2>
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    <a  href="/by/William+Morgan/">William Morgan</a>,
    <span title="12 months ago">March  8, 2009  6:29pm</span>
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    <div class="labels"><span class='label'><a  href="/label/whisper/">whisper</a></span> <span class='label'><a  href="/label/mathml/">mathml</a></span> </div>
  
  <p class='first'>I&#8217;ve finally pulled in all the old comments from the Blogspot blog. A painful
process of semi-automated Atom to YAML+Textile conversion, and the resulting
comments are not threaded, but they&#8217;re at least here now.</p>
<p>As a side note, I&#8217;m <strong>really</strong> liking having my posts stored in a git repo. I can
write them locally, tweak them and see how things look, and push when they&#8217;re
finally ready to be published.</p>
<p>As another side note, MathML is a being a shitshow as usual. Firefox 3.1 (but
not 3.0?) apparently craps out at embedded style sheets in <span class="caps">XML</span> (craps out as
in, refuses to display the blog and displays a big red error instead), or some
shit. So I&#8217;ve removed some stylesheet line from the master template and now
everything seems to work in both Firefoxes. But that line is <em>critical</em>
according to <cite><a href="http://www.w3.org/Math/XSL/">Putting mathematics on the Web with
MathML</a></cite> so god only knows what I&#8217;ve broken in the
process.</p>
<p>The big problem with all this MathML stuff is that the <span class="caps">XML</span> wonks apparently
managed to trick everyone into violating Postel&#8217;s law and failing hard when the
browser doesn&#8217;t like something about the <span class="caps">XML</span> it sees. So the moment anything is
slightly out of whack, no one can see your blog. Maybe that&#8217;s why no one in the
world uses MathML except for me?</p>
<p>That brings to mind an old Mark Pilgrim post about <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/01/08/postels-law"><span class="caps">XML</span> and Postel&#8217;s
Law</a> which is a good
read, and includes this memorable quote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Various people have tried to mandate this principle out of existence, some
going so far as to claim that Postel’s Law should not apply to <span class="caps">XML</span>, because
(apparently) the three letters &#8220;X&#8221;, &#8220;M&#8221;, and &#8220;L&#8221; are a magical combination that
signal a glorious revolution that somehow overturns the fundamental principles
of interoperability.</p>
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<p>Good stuff. Too bad that was <em>five fucking years ago</em> and I&#8217;m still dealing
with this shit.</p>
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  <h2><a  href="/maff">maff test</a></h2>
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    <a  href="/by/William+Morgan/">William Morgan</a>,
    <span title="17 months ago">October  6, 2008  4:38pm</span>
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    <div class="labels"><span class='label'><a  href="/label/mathml/">mathml</a></span> <span class='label'><a  href="/label/whisper/">whisper</a></span> </div>
  
  <p class='first'>It really seems like this should display some kind of equation:</p>
<p><div class='blockmath' title='\int_0^1 \theta^2 dx'><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display="block"><msubsup><mo>&Integral;</mo><mn>0</mn><mn>1</mn></msubsup><msup><mi>&theta;</mi><mn>2</mn></msup><mi>d</mi><mi>x</mi></math></div></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t make it work despite all my xhtml&#8217;ing. Blogger fail.
<em>[Fixed in <a href="http://masanjin.net/whisper/">Whisper</a>. &#8212;ed.]</em></p>
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